tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-700422052349858489.post8190013739797417544..comments2019-01-20T11:03:21.609-06:00Comments on To Write A Novel: When Did the Definition of Pro-choice Change?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16587619264378131592noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-700422052349858489.post-72384179295026578372014-02-23T10:41:49.527-06:002014-02-23T10:41:49.527-06:00Alicia, you are definitely not a rabid pro-lifer t...Alicia, you are definitely not a rabid pro-lifer that i have referred to, and i feel that way about you mostly because, though we disagree, we do so with loving intentions, and have so much in common when it comes to the rest.<br /><br />to answer your questoin, i think that probably at the point where a baby could survive on its own without mother is the point that it becomes a person who should have quality of life rights, and not parasite almost-person. but I saw Gator as a person, just like in that article i linked, at 21 weeks when i actually saw her. That woman saw her child as her son, as her future son when at 21 weeks, she chose to let him have peace instead of pain. but still Gator could not have survived on her own at that point, and had she had a deformity that woudl have killed her at or before birth, i would have had to consider her eventual quality of disconnected-from-my-lifeforce life.<br /><br />it's all very complex, and it's hard, and i wish it didn't matter so much and we could focus, like i said, on the bottom-up approach instead. i just had to get it down, a little bit to truly understand what i really think because that's just how i do it. Thank you for even more of your input and asking and yes, clarifying our previous chat. i like that you mention that you want the truth of abortion to be known, and i completely agree. and i don't think any person who has chosen to be on either side does so lightly and with no research into what they're choosing. and if they have gone in uneducated, it is our duty to educate not just the one side we agree with, but both.<br /><br />why are we spending so much money on bombs and oil when there's so much education needed in so many different areas!? ah, but that's a rant for another day...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16587619264378131592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-700422052349858489.post-88065835790967535822014-02-23T09:40:10.009-06:002014-02-23T09:40:10.009-06:00Its Alicia by the way ;) I could only post as ann...Its Alicia by the way ;) I could only post as annon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-700422052349858489.post-4492670089705390352014-02-23T09:38:44.575-06:002014-02-23T09:38:44.575-06:00I very much agree with the idea of educating women...I very much agree with the idea of educating women and phasing out abortion. Like I have said in a perfect world I do wish that that the laws already in place for murder would protect all life. I do not believe the mother is a murderer. One thing I have to say is that as a generalization most pro-choicers like to say that pro lifers only care about the fetus and forget the born child but I feel the WOMAN is forgot even on the pro-choice side. I feel that often a woman is lied to or at least mislead into thinking her baby is less developed than it really is and she is "spared" from seeing an ultrasound which I believe she has the right to see. She deserves the right to know what her baby is. I think using he term "health care" when we are talking about abortion is very misleading. You don't feel regret about a an appendectamy (spelling?) Anyways my point is that many women are often wounded by abortion. Some right away some years down the road and it seems (again as a generalization) that there is nothing set up for these women on the pro-choice side maybe because it would mean admitting that abortion isn't just a simple procedure. My heart goes out to all women who have ever been at the crossroads of this decision. How scared and alone they must feel. And judged. You would never catch me throwing dolls on the side of the street but there are just as many people silently praying and gently helping women know all of their options and taking some of that fear away for them and showing them they are not alone. I have to ask since you see an unborn child as potentiolly human and as a parasite but you also think at a certain point abortion should be banned, does the baby become human to you at this point? What makes it that way for you? Honestly curious. Personally I never try to "shock" with graphic details or facts about stopping a beating heart but more I am shocked that that does nothing to change the minds of people. I understand abortion is an extrmely tricky subject since the child relies on the mother 100% to survive even I don't know all the answers to make this situation ever be perfect. As I have said, probably too many times, I do wish that ehisting laws protected all life but they don't and maybe at one point I did wish for stricter laws on abortion but have since changed my stance. Government intervention will only fuck it up more by possibly prosecuting women for misscariage and such. Government intervention is not the answer but I agree that education is (isn't it always!) But that includes not only sex education but education about the truth of abortion. No beating around the bush no misleading just straight up truth so woman can make completly informed decisions. Yes there will still be abortions but I think the number would go way down and the women hurt by abortion would decrease as well. I guess this is also my response to our previous debate. I realize to have my freedom I need to fight for others to have theirs. (And I believe I do) If I seem tk condradict myself on this issue its only because I am conficted as I see the unborn as a living person with a soul and feel they deserve human rights and that abortions involving physical and mental disabilities are discrimination. For some reason I can't review this on my phone so I apolagize for spelling errors and rambling but I hope it offers insight into the brain of a pro-lifer and answers your questions you have about on me from our previous chat. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com